> Who is the blackmailer? There is no God, thus no blackmailer.
neither is there free will...
interesting article. i liked the analogy.
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Free will- Divine blackmail?
by nvrgnbk indivine blackmail .
free will in the theistic worldview.
when confronted with the problem of evil - i.e., why a loving god allows pain and suffering to exist - theists of the western traditions often invoke the "free will" defense, that god wanted us to be truly free and that such freedom necessitates evil; we must have the option to either choose him or reject him.
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I think I am an Atheist (current JW)
by Robert7 ini am writing this group to discuss a topic that as you can imagine i really cannot discuss with too many people, at least as of now.
i am a married male jw, married to a another jw, and she's content with being a witness, and in fact, i don't want to change that if she's happy.. for a very brief history, i was baptized at 19, and have been a jw for 10 years.
fact is, i 'believed' in everything in as much as a lot of it 'made sense' and i was wrapped up in the whole thing.
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apart from the kids, i pretty much share(d) your situation. my strategy was the fade - although one day you wont get around confessing to your wife, which is the hardest part of the story. prove to your wife that you're even a better husband without the watchtower and she'll eventually get over it.
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2008 and still no Armagedon!!! I feel like I made an "Ass of myself"
by Witness 007 inyes sitting in pizza hut in 1991 a small band of pioneer brothers {me and friend's} debated when armagedon would come.
due to the "generations" doctrine, we calculated 2001 at the latest...then the doctrine was dropped!!!
recently the last world war 1 vetran died in australia.
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i remember - exactly 10 years ago - i told a fellow brother that i don't believe this system of things would last another 5 years. fortunately that system of things indeed didn't last much longer for me.
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Self Deceit and Faith.
by hillary_step inthis thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".
my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.
2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.
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i predict "burntheships" will be an atheist 2 years from now
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What are you going to teach your children about relgion?
by reneeisorym in) take them to your church and encourage them to learn about other faiths too..
) don't teach them anything about religion..
) encourage atheism..
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lol.. i already opened my 4th beer tonight, but i'll be over to england sometime next year, i'll get back on you ;)
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I need a simplified explanation...
by XOCO intoday i had a sister do a bible study with me and i asked her if jesus really died on a torture stake instead of a cross and i showed her john 20:25 emphasizing hands with an s and nails with an s. what the sister had told me was "yes one nail though his hands and one nail though his feet" ok so now back to the emphasis of the s if that were the case why make hand and nail plural be written in the bible then?
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if i remember correctly... in the "bible stories" book they have an image of jesus nailed to a stake with two nails through his crossed hands. but i'm not sure. you can make just about anything of the bible anyway.
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Did you have any "well kept secrets" that the congregation never knew of?
by JH inwhen you gather with the same people for decades, they get to know you inside out.
they know where you work, have a good idea how much money you earn, know if you have sex or not, know your personal tastes, know where you go on vacations and so on..... were there things you were able to keep them from knowing?.
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one day i found out that everyone of the youngsters in my congo already had smoked weed at least once... so i asked one of the younger guys to get me some too. smoked it with another brother right after the memorial.
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What are you going to teach your children about relgion?
by reneeisorym in) take them to your church and encourage them to learn about other faiths too..
) don't teach them anything about religion..
) encourage atheism..
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for the record: i pretty much agree with trygon here.
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Any Spanish speakers?
by ThomasCovenant inhi.
can anyone tell me if this is a pro or anti jw site?.
thomas covenant.
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a mi una vez me cerraron un thread por hablar aleman, asi que tengan cuidado ;)
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Are there a minimum set of core beliefs that all Christians accept?
by nicolaou infor example, a christian could not simply believe that jesus was a compassionate man could he?
christ must be accepted as being divine either as part of a trinity or at least as the son of god.. must a christian believe that the miracles of jesus as recorded in the bible are actual events or can they be accepted as allegory?must a christian believe that "all scripture is inspired of god"?jesus is said to separate the sheep from the goats - can you be a christian without accepting that jesus will kill all the goats?there seems to be so much about christ that many christians are simply too uncomfortable to discuss.
why?
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i've been talking to some kind of atheist christians already, so no... there's no smallest denominator.